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		<title>By: More pressure on the BBC over Newsbeat BNP feature &#171; Paperhouse</title>
		<link>http://sarahditum.com/2009/10/03/bbc-fails-on-bnp-avert-pandicidal-crarrow-crisis-now/#comment-1763</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[More pressure on the BBC over Newsbeat BNP feature &#171; Paperhouse]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 12:03:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] interviewing, Jeremy Hunt, Newsbeat, Peter Hain, editorial guidelines by Sarah   Newsbeat&#8217;s dereliction of editorial responsibility in reporting the BNP has become a story in its own right. Both Welsh secretary Peter Hain and [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] interviewing, Jeremy Hunt, Newsbeat, Peter Hain, editorial guidelines by Sarah   Newsbeat&#8217;s dereliction of editorial responsibility in reporting the BNP has become a story in its own right. Both Welsh secretary Peter Hain and [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Media Show on reporting the BNP &#171; Paperhouse</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Media Show on reporting the BNP &#171; Paperhouse]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 18:00:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] conversation was sharply focussed, and Hassan effectively undermined Bailey&#8217;s defence of the Newsbeat broadcast: the point about &#8220;Joey and Mark&#8221; being senior BNP activists (rather than just [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] conversation was sharply focussed, and Hassan effectively undermined Bailey&#8217;s defence of the Newsbeat broadcast: the point about &#8220;Joey and Mark&#8221; being senior BNP activists (rather than just [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Unsatisfaction: Newsbeat and the BNP &#171; Paperhouse</title>
		<link>http://sarahditum.com/2009/10/03/bbc-fails-on-bnp-avert-pandicidal-crarrow-crisis-now/#comment-1746</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Unsatisfaction: Newsbeat and the BNP &#171; Paperhouse]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 09:21:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] my complaint was about two specific instances in which the BNP&#8217;s false and bigoted reasoning was allowed to stand as fact: the false [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Pickled Politics &#187; BBC editor replies to Radio 1&#8217;s BNP-gate</title>
		<link>http://sarahditum.com/2009/10/03/bbc-fails-on-bnp-avert-pandicidal-crarrow-crisis-now/#comment-1744</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pickled Politics &#187; BBC editor replies to Radio 1&#8217;s BNP-gate]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 09:28:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Sarah Ditum quite rightly puts it. But there&#8217;s more: the editor of Newsbeat and 1Xtra News Rod McKenzie [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Lawrie</title>
		<link>http://sarahditum.com/2009/10/03/bbc-fails-on-bnp-avert-pandicidal-crarrow-crisis-now/#comment-1743</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lawrie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Oct 2009 12:20:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As much as I hate to be facetious (which is to say that I don&#039;t hate it at all); the BNP may not be a legal party at all. Their policy of disallowing non-whites to become members of the party contravines the Race Relations Act. It&#039;s originally mentioned &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.politics.co.uk/news/equality/bnp-faces-legal-injunction-over-membership-policy-$1306003.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here, and an update &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.equalityhumanrights.com/media-centre/commission-issues-county-court-proceedings-against-the-bnp/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; referring to county court proceedings being filed by the EHRC.

It&#039;s worth noting the unintentional hilarity of the last paragraph in the politics.co.uk article:

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There are also concerns among officials that elected BNP representatives may not intend to provide services on an equal level to all constituents regardless of their race or colour. 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As much as I hate to be facetious (which is to say that I don&#8217;t hate it at all); the BNP may not be a legal party at all. Their policy of disallowing non-whites to become members of the party contravines the Race Relations Act. It&#8217;s originally mentioned <a href="http://www.politics.co.uk/news/equality/bnp-faces-legal-injunction-over-membership-policy-$1306003.htm" rel="nofollow">here, and an update </a><a href="http://www.equalityhumanrights.com/media-centre/commission-issues-county-court-proceedings-against-the-bnp/" rel="nofollow">here</a> referring to county court proceedings being filed by the EHRC.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s worth noting the unintentional hilarity of the last paragraph in the politics.co.uk article:</p>
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There are also concerns among officials that elected BNP representatives may not intend to provide services on an equal level to all constituents regardless of their race or colour.
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		<title>By: Sarah</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sarah]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Oct 2009 10:13:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Devastating because it&#039;s a terrible piece of journalism. I don&#039;t think there&#039;s anything politically biassed about making sure that published work reflects the facts - it&#039;s simply the journalist and editor&#039;s job to ensure that false statements like the one about species and the one about Ashley Cole don&#039;t receive the appearance of truth. They didn&#039;t do that job here, and it&#039;s devastating to my esteem for BBC news, which I generally consider imperfect but effective. (I&#039;ve edited the last-but-one sentence to read &quot;devastating&lt;em&gt;ly bad&lt;/em&gt;.&quot; For clarity like.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Devastating because it&#8217;s a terrible piece of journalism. I don&#8217;t think there&#8217;s anything politically biassed about making sure that published work reflects the facts &#8211; it&#8217;s simply the journalist and editor&#8217;s job to ensure that false statements like the one about species and the one about Ashley Cole don&#8217;t receive the appearance of truth. They didn&#8217;t do that job here, and it&#8217;s devastating to my esteem for BBC news, which I generally consider imperfect but effective. (I&#8217;ve edited the last-but-one sentence to read &#8220;devastating<em>ly bad</em>.&#8221; For clarity like.)</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Weeden</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave Weeden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Oct 2009 10:06:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;The Newsbeat interview might be helpful as evidence that the BBC isn’t a fulminating hive of left-wingery; as evidence of the corporation’s newsgathering and reporting prowess, it’s devastating. Complain to the BBC at this link.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I don&#039;t think anyone, besides the odd Gramsci-ite Tory, really thinks the BBC is left-wing. After that, I don&#039;t follow. How does that interview demonstrate the BBC&#039;s &#039;newsgathering and reporting prowess&#039;? You&#039;ve claimed that it&#039;s a particularly weak piece of journalism. I don&#039;t agree, but it&#039;s certainly not newsgathering, so I don&#039;t see how it can demonstrate prowess of same. (I&#039;ve just had second thoughts on that sentence; suddenly I don&#039;t know what newsgathering is. I&#039;ve assumed that it means getting intelligence on events, but it could extend to simple interviewing, which this is unarguably a case of.) What are you asking readers to complain about? The prowess of the BBC? That it&#039;s not left-wing enough?

I certain buy the argument that the interview was an example of giving enough rope. The BNP are a legal party; I think they&#039;re disingenuous about the violence of their supporters, but they are allowed to put up candidates. As such, the BBC should be obliged to interview them. All the arguments they give are risible. What&#039;s worse, is that they&#039;re almost certainly BNP dogma and not the struggling articulations of a couple of teenagers. They were reciting the party line just as Gordon Brown was when he claimed that the government were the insurgents now. The questions were soft, but they weren&#039;t friendly. The BNP have no policies besides the racial segregation thing; if you believe much of the electorate will be foolish enough to vote for them, you really have to question universal suffrage, because it seems that you&#039;re calling for a sort of state censorship. They don&#039;t represent dangerous ungoodthink, they&#039;re just idiots.

BTW, what would you say to Nick Griffin being mauled by Paxman - would that be OK?

I don&#039;t like the BNP, and if it ever came to that, I&#039;d always vote tactically against them. But some people believe in their policies. And we&#039;re a free country and we should allow them their beliefs and expression.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The Newsbeat interview might be helpful as evidence that the BBC isn’t a fulminating hive of left-wingery; as evidence of the corporation’s newsgathering and reporting prowess, it’s devastating. Complain to the BBC at this link.</p></blockquote>
<p>I don&#8217;t think anyone, besides the odd Gramsci-ite Tory, really thinks the BBC is left-wing. After that, I don&#8217;t follow. How does that interview demonstrate the BBC&#8217;s &#8216;newsgathering and reporting prowess&#8217;? You&#8217;ve claimed that it&#8217;s a particularly weak piece of journalism. I don&#8217;t agree, but it&#8217;s certainly not newsgathering, so I don&#8217;t see how it can demonstrate prowess of same. (I&#8217;ve just had second thoughts on that sentence; suddenly I don&#8217;t know what newsgathering is. I&#8217;ve assumed that it means getting intelligence on events, but it could extend to simple interviewing, which this is unarguably a case of.) What are you asking readers to complain about? The prowess of the BBC? That it&#8217;s not left-wing enough?</p>
<p>I certain buy the argument that the interview was an example of giving enough rope. The BNP are a legal party; I think they&#8217;re disingenuous about the violence of their supporters, but they are allowed to put up candidates. As such, the BBC should be obliged to interview them. All the arguments they give are risible. What&#8217;s worse, is that they&#8217;re almost certainly BNP dogma and not the struggling articulations of a couple of teenagers. They were reciting the party line just as Gordon Brown was when he claimed that the government were the insurgents now. The questions were soft, but they weren&#8217;t friendly. The BNP have no policies besides the racial segregation thing; if you believe much of the electorate will be foolish enough to vote for them, you really have to question universal suffrage, because it seems that you&#8217;re calling for a sort of state censorship. They don&#8217;t represent dangerous ungoodthink, they&#8217;re just idiots.</p>
<p>BTW, what would you say to Nick Griffin being mauled by Paxman &#8211; would that be OK?</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t like the BNP, and if it ever came to that, I&#8217;d always vote tactically against them. But some people believe in their policies. And we&#8217;re a free country and we should allow them their beliefs and expression.</p>
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		<title>By: BBC&#8217;s website cosies up to bigots &#171; 853</title>
		<link>http://sarahditum.com/2009/10/03/bbc-fails-on-bnp-avert-pandicidal-crarrow-crisis-now/#comment-1737</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[BBC&#8217;s website cosies up to bigots &#171; 853]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 21:26:18 +0000</pubDate>
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